P-2-P Network Members to Become Billionaires in 3 Years!
The “investors” in Pathway-2-Prosperity are all about to hit the jackpot with their small investments… and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you. Recently I’ve received several invitations from current participants to join P2P in my mailbox. There are also a lot of buzz going around on the forums regarding this investment by its supporters, so I have decided to investigate.
Once again, in my opinion, I feel another big scam is in the makings. The only pathway that P2P is leading this big group of lemmings (3182 members at last count) is off the cliffs, right after their pockets have been emptied of spare change. It still amazes me how many people out there will forgo logic once greed sets in with promises of a fast buck. The lessons are never learned of past scams.
Just reading the FAQs on the P2P site makes by bones shiver and the hairs on my neck rise. Take for example.
Is this a HYIP program like others I have seen?
No - never! If you read the content of “P-2-P Network” and the H.Y.I.P. report you will see that we do not believe in H.Y.I.P. and the systems that 99% of these operators follow. It is fairly easy to see - look at the interest some of them offer - ridiculous! Taking money from one to pay another is a highly illegal practice. Investing in H.Y.I.P. systems is totally a risk you take (a risk we do not take). The funds you place in “P-2-P Network” is genuinely invested and real returns are paid.
Yet, halfway down the page some fantastic returns are listed. They have four different investment plans. There is a 7, 15, 30 and 60 day plans with a 1.5 - 2.5% respectively per day in interest depending on the plan.
“60 Day Plan” - You earn a Net Profit of 2.5% daily for the 60 days, on top of your initial investment, thus if you choose to make a withdrawal, you would receive a return of 60 x 2.5% = 150% PLUS your initial investment !!
And they give an example as to what a $100 dollar investment will do.
Here is an example of $100.00 invested in the “60 Day Plan”……..
$100.00 x 2.5% = $2.50 x 60 Days = $150.00 PLUS your initial investment of $100.00 = $250.00
Ok, I see how it works. It is a return of 150% every 60 days. (This isn’t ridiculous is it?) Let’s do a little math shall we? Just suppose an investor started with $1000 dollars to begin with. There are 365 days in a year, so that is 6 rounds of 60 days if he chooses to invest in the “60 Day Plan” and re-invest at the end of each 60 day cycle.
- 1st 60 days = $ 2500.00
- 2nd 60 days = $ 6250.00
- 3rd 60 days = $ 13,125.00
- 4th 60 days = $ 32,812.50
- 5th 60 days = $ 82,401.25
- 6th 60 days = $205,078.13
There you have it; you can turn $1000 into $205,078.13 in the span of ONE year using the 60 Day plan. It gets even better if you have a longer timeframe and are not in a big rush to withdraw your new found wealth. Let’s see what happens if you reinvest the $205K for 6 more cycles in the second year.
At the end of the 6 cycles of the second year, wait, make sure you are sitting. You will become a multi-millionaire with a whopping $59,603,644.78! You make all this money from a paltry $1000 dollar investment. Retire in style in 2 years. Wait, why stop here. Don’t you want to make the Forbes list?
If you reinvest those millions in their 60 day plans again. At the end of year number 3, you will become a multi Billionaire! $14,551,915,228.37 Billions to be exact. Bill Gates, eat your heart out. You will be joined by 3,182 new billionaires. And collectively, if all these members followed the same plan with $1000 dollars, it will make the largest mutual fund in the world pale in comparison at P2P’s assets at $46 Trillion dollars.
So did you all get that? Google some “compound calculators” and do the math yourself. “It is fairly easy to see - look at the interest some of them offer - ridiculous!” is an understatement, right from the horse’s mouth.
Okay, so what does this all mean? You are still not convinced that there is something fishy going on? Well, let’s move on and take a look at that web page again.
We know that Nicholas Smirnow is the admin of this program and website. The same name is listed for Pathway-2-Prosperity.com, which seems to be in limbo since October 21, 2006. We will get back to this.
If you look at the scripting and verbiage on Pathway-2-Prosperity.net, it may ring a bell if you have been in the “HYIP” arena any length of time. It is the same exact wording found on many hyip scams in the past. Oddly enough, if you do a Google search on this sentence, “same software that HYIP scammers use” from one of the paragraphs on P2P’s site, one particular scam comes up. Here is the search result. And if you click on the Google cached link for InvestPlace, you will see the cloned verbiage that P2P is using.

Investplace.com was a huge scam. If you do a search on Investplace in all the hyip forums you see that thousands of members have lost money in it. The admin shut it down and disappeared with their money. Like most of these scams, of course, there were those that made some money in the early stages just to bait in the losers in the end.
So what does this have to do with Nicholas Smirnow? Is he the one and the same admin for Investplace.com? I’ll let you decide, but I can say he was involved.
We know that Mr. Smirnow is working under various company names and usually use the name of “rddirect” as his alias or username in various programs and on forums. I sure hope the word “DIANIC” stands for Diane, his wife and Nic, because you’ll get a good laugh if you do a search on it.
Nicholas Smirnow / CEO
R.D. DIRECT Marketing Group
N.D.S. Enterprises
DIANIC Holdings International
801-795-7976 (Business Voicemail)
908-325-7292 (Fax)
rddirect_biz@yahoo.ca
rddirect@veretekk.com
rddirect_NoBrokenPromisesHere@yahoo.ca
smirnow@sympatico.ca
admin@Pathway-2-Prosperity.com
Now go to this site and see all that he was and is involved in.
http://all4webs.com/v/t/dianic/
Towards the bottom of the page, what do you see? First on the list of “The Heavy Hitters” you will see Investplace being promoted.
THE HEAVY HITTERS !!!!!
Invest Place
http://www.investplace.com/index.php?ref=rddirect
“FREEDOM AT LAST”
http://www.epibiz.com/rddirect
“LIVING MY DREAMS”
http://www.3dcity.com/rddirect
“FINANCIAL FREEDOM 4 ALL”
http://www.emeraldpassport.cc/rddirect
“PREDATOR MARKETING SYSTEM”
http://www.predatormarketingsystem.com/harald
“Success Synergy Systems”
http://www.successsynergysystems.com/?2556
“Pathway 2 Prosperity”
http://www.pathway-2-prosperity.com/?r=00001
I suppose Nicholas Smirnow forgot to update this page. Which brings us back to Pathway-2-Prosperity.com, because in itself is not a big deal, but holy cow, how many programs has Nicholas been involved in that hasn’t panned out? I must be missing something because according to Nicholas, he is a real successful businessman as stated in his personal note on this site. Note the rate of return on this posting is 250% for the 60 day plan. This page also says he is good friends with Sir Richard Branson, the multi-billionaire. Somebody care to call Sir Richard?
http://www.turnkeyplan.com/autosurftraining/p2p_help.htm
Last, but not least I find it interesting the great extent that transparency is being avoided. I don’t know about anybody else, but when I invest a large sum of money with someone, I need to at least see a business plan, and offering memorandum or at least a prospectus. If nothing else, a receipt or contract with a signature and address of whom I have placed money with.
Is “P-2-P Network” legal?
Legal and clean! Although every country has different views on foreign investments, “P-2-P Network” operates in a jurisdiction where it is 100% legal to manage private funds and investments internationally. If you are unsure whether you are allowed to participate in your country, please ask a registered advisor of your rights to participate in private investments, clubs, funds and loan clubs (these are the categories it legally falls in).
Where might this jurisdiction be? Well, if you ping www.pathway-2-prosperity.net, you get 83.98.157.119. A Whois lookup reveals that this domain is hosted in Amsterdam, NL. I now feel much safer. The hotbed of the Nigerian bank and lottery scams.
% This is the RIPE Whois query server #3.
% The objects are in RPSL format.
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% Rights restricted by copyright.
% See http://www.ripe.net/db/copyright.html
% Information related to ‘83.98.157.0 - 83.98.157.255′
inetnum: 83.98.157.0 - 83.98.157.255
netname: NL-HOSTING2NV
descr: Hosting2nv
descr: Amsterdam, NL - Hosting Services
descr: http://www.hosting2nv.com
descr: *****@hosting2nv.com
remarks: *************************************
remarks: ABUSE CONTACT: *****@hosting2nv.com
remarks: *************************************
country: NL
admin-c: CM5763-RIPE
tech-c: CM5763-RIPE
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: ROKSCOM-MNT
changed: ******@as25232.net 20070416
source: RIPE
person: Cynthia Minton
address: 17348 Palm Drive
address: Montverde, 34756 FL
address: United States
phone: +1.3219479897
nic-hdl: CM5763-RIPE
changed: ******@as25232.net 20070327
source: RIPE
% Information related to ‘83.98.128.0/17AS25232′
route: 83.98.128.0/17
descr: The AS25232 Network
origin: AS25232
mnt-by: ROKSCOM-MNT
changed: ******@co-locate.nl 20040114
source: RIPE
I am not quite sure what the connection is with Cynthia Minton of LucidityHosting in Florida. They either physically host the site in Florida and the IP is provided by ROKSCOM for an overseas appearance, or it is actually hosted in Amsterdam and LucidityHosting was just the reseller.
P2P has a business phone number in Nevada, a home number in Ontario, Canada and a website hosted in Amsterdam. Without an address, do you think you can recover your money if something catastrophic happens with no legal proof?
There are definitely too many red flags, but once again OWI leaves it up to you the reader to make your own best judgment. Known public information is presented here. If you think you can become a billionaire, from the rate of returns they have proposed; no one is stopping you. Do the due.
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October 24th, 2007 09:07
thank you for your analysis of p2p. I sent an inquiry to customer service to find out why they would go out of their way to debunk hyips, only to advertise an hyip monitor on their website and be listed along with other hyips; i got an indignant reply, “we have the right to do whatever we want”;
October 24th, 2007 13:30
I think youre over dramatizing the proposed profits. The max. investment level is 25k yet you show investment amts. in the millions to become a billionaire.
Also, I dont see anything in your post that proves Nick was the owner of investplace.com and from what ive read on that site, it was brought down by Stormpay and EMO when many other sites were also affected.
Regarding the allwebs.com site, Nick has told me he was involved as a member inother sites before and created P2P at the suggestion of his emerald downline and other peers so we could have something stable. He never hid that fact and many have had a similar webpage to advertise their urls.
Although you make it all sound like gloom and doom, i still dont see anything that screams scam. If you have PROOF then show it.
The upgraded membership in P2P is well below the number you mentioned in your post(approx.half) and from Feb.-July/07 the membership was steady around 500 and always paid……how do you account for the profits that were paid during this time period when very few members were joining?….and therefore not much fresh money coming in. Obviously, the profits came from Nicks investments.
In any case, it is your opinion and people can take it for what its worth.
Gary
November 4th, 2007 18:32
Sorry but P2P will come crashing down sooner or later. You can say whatever you want about how you can “only” invest 25k at a time etc… the fact remains NOBODY can earn 2.5% a day month after month year after year. Your so called hero Nick is a fake, I have emailed and called him with no response, which doesn’t surprise me as he can obviously see that I am not fooled by his smoke and mirrors.
The one thing all the cheerleaders for P2P seem to miss or not want to talk about is the fact that the limit of 25k is ONLY for members, there is NO limit for Nick. Think about it, the limit is for members, if it was for Nick as well then that would mean one member invests 25k and then nobody else could invest…so we know it does NOT apply to him…
Now do the math… if Nick took “ONLY” 10k of his own money and returned the same 2.5% that he claims he can continue to do at the end of one year he would have 82 million dollars. Do the math yourself. So either Nick really can’t earn 2.5% every day forever, or he can. If he can then please explain to me why a guy that could be worth 82 million in a year is running a hyip script, dealing with ecurrencies and 50 buck deposits… it makes so little sense it’s laughable…but to those that just wanna believe they will….. and they will just be gobsmacked when it fails and wonder how they could have been so blind…
Good luck… you’re gonna need it… but don’t worry maybe Nick will share some of his 82 million with you.
November 15th, 2007 20:45
Thank you very much Peter Skuta for providing us with additional information that we continue to gather pertaining to the upcoming “slander” suit which is against YOU !!
November 23rd, 2007 17:13
Traderj has talked to Nick since his post was made here. Traderj, have you changed your opinion about P-2-P since your conversation with Nick? I think you are supposed to have a face to face meeting with Nick. Do you know when that will happen?
December 6th, 2007 09:46
Thanks Peter but we all know you are hacker/cheater and we can’t bear anything against NICK he is a genuine person i know him since feb and i talked him many times so i do believe him so do not need to make people fool here ..everyone knows NICK and to trust him you can’t do anything..go to hell
Ubaid Ahsan
December 27th, 2007 19:37
Hello Harry, I have been advised by my lawyers to not talk about Nick or the details I have been given in public anymore so I can’t really so more than that. I never did meet Nick as he bailed on our meeting. I can tell you there are two investigations going on right now in Canada regarding the person behind the program. I have been contacted by one of the regulatory bodies involved. Hence my being told to not disclose any further info. I would not bet too heavily on this program being around that much longer. Just my two cents worth.
January 4th, 2008 16:55
Wow. When I came accross the site the first time, my “greed and need” emotions kicked in. Then when I thought about giving someone I did not know some money and he would make ridiculous returns for me, my common sense kicked in. I went to “AnswerBag.com” and asked about this “company”. Aeader directed me to this site. I appreciate the sobering information. I won’t be depositing with P-2P.
Thanks
January 5th, 2008 21:31
Traderj, Why would the “regulatory bodies” be contacting YOU?? Unless, YOU were the one who notified them of your concern that p-2-p was not legit.
January 6th, 2008 14:07
Thanks for the answer TraderJ. However P-2-P just keeps on paying and paying. So far I have not seen any real solid evidence that this program is illegal or not for real.
January 7th, 2008 14:02
Mr. Nicholas Smirnow is going under arrest. I do not care that it is legal or not. I HAVE NOT RECEIVED $35 000 money, Nick I forget to mention that this was government money. They have reported you to FBI.
January 15th, 2008 00:31
Peter, your post does not make any sense. Are you saying the $35,000 you say Nick owes you, belongs to the government??? What government?
It may be YOU that is in trouble for hacking Nick’s web site, trying to extort money from him. It may soon be YOU who is arrested for all the crimes perpetrated upon an innocent man because of greed!
I think you chose the wrong person to attack.
January 18th, 2008 20:47
It seems a though there are existing difference of opinions here. What i would like to know is there a Nick Skimrow? or is this a phoney Name.? what do i say to my friend who got me involved in this ? He has shown me payments of intrest through Solid Trust Pay. In the amounts of $2000, $1350, $3000, and a few others with larger amounts, these are authentic Payment from his investment in Nicks P2P. how can anyone Pay out ands promised be crooked? I guess I am a little to trusting. , or the persons that talk aginst him are Just jealous that they haven’t invested in something this feesable.
I have made several deposits and it seems like everything is good., But I will now be a little more cautious ,and withdraw double what i have invested, and then just let things ride ride all the way to hell’s gates. in one years time ,and see who is right, and/or who is a crook. for now, NICK ROCKS.
February 14th, 2008 04:49
Since 2000 I’ve invested online around $2000and made few bucks so never recovered my investments in ebooks and software. I’ve learnt a lot about Internet marketing and online businesses, and now after 8 years, I can say what works and what doesn’t on the net. But about investing online you never can be sure and you’ve to take the risk. So, I took the risk, as Robert B did, and am waiting to see what happens. I know is not easy to lead such business, today p2p network has over 9000 members, so it takes a lot of work and, when you work you also have problems… Don’t want to have any problems, do nothing… and you are out of troubles. But I’m not this kind of person, I LOVE to take the risk of doing something…
To life, family and business success,
Teodor
February 22nd, 2008 10:14
Hi,
I made a spend of substantial amount and can only wait. I would only love to personally meet nick though it would give me some assurance and also get tangible evidence of some of the entities he invests in.I listened to his interview on 24 surf which kind gave me some confidence but would have appreciated see him as well as kent. Lets see what happens in 30 days.
February 27th, 2008 12:55
My name is terry,I started only with $100,my first maturity date is Mar 9 I have $250 in my account,I am goin to add enough to have $800 to continue with,You people putting P2P down,can just grab hold of the devils tail,and go for a ride to where you belong.
February 29th, 2008 14:20
Anyone who invests in this is a fool…especially the people who are throwing in $25,000 right off the bat.
You all deserve to rot in your greed.
March 18th, 2008 17:08
I here some of you say you got money in your so called account but who has actually received real money, how much, not just a balance sheet somewhere but cold hard cash.
March 20th, 2008 03:00
Hello folks
Interesting discussion. Here are some facts I have been in P-2-P for 11 months. I started with a small investment. I have taken out 1,335% return on that investment as of a month ago in cash. I have remaining a substantial investment that continues to build funds. I will send anyone evidence of my payments. Is 2% return impossible over time. Yes mostly it isn’t, but in the worlds of high finance and leveraged high yielding investments it happens.
So we all wait and see what the end of this drama will be like. Yes be sensible and follow the rules of high risk investment, diversify and get your prinicple out asp etc. But also have fun, take a few risks and enjoy the ride when you get it right as I am doing in P-2-P right in a no loose and much to gain position.
cheers
pacifciinvest
http://www.hyip-portfolio.com
March 24th, 2008 18:43
I know this program pays because i know people who have been paid. but if this is a HYIP doesn’t that mean the people who join at the beginning are stealing money from the people who join at the end? Does this sit right with all you guys who are making thousands of dollars out of this? or doesn’t the little old lady whose (unwisely) putting all her life savings into it matter?
I would like to see evidence (besides what nick says on his site) that this isn’t a HYIP because there seem to be a lot of hints suggesting it is and that its reaching its end soon, eg the minimum investment prices going up to $100, payments taking longer and longer and the move to their own payment processor which could leave room for much “error”
another worry is the inconsistency or information. Things like in the FAQ on http://www.mycashforum.com . He says he invests in all these normal low to medium risk things, one of them being Forex. A little way down they say he doesn’t invest in Forex “He noted that he
does not do Forex trading.. a too volatile area for him”
Another inconsistency was something about it going private and only accepting a limited amount of members. Now he says its not going private, but there will be a separate private program, and you can see on the website that the amount of members is way over their original limit.
now i’m not saying im an expert. I’m only new to all this. but someone, anyone, it would be great if you could address these points.
March 24th, 2008 19:06
Here is what I can tell anyone coming to this blog/forum/whathaveyou:
1. I got into P2P with a fairly significant lump sum.
2. My lump sum has been successfully tucked back into my bank account, and any P2P related earnings are now straight up profit.
3. I was born short, and it was dark, and that has nothing to do with my life now. Nick’s other efforts may or may not have been successful, but P2P is working as advertised.
4. ALL financial propositions fizzle sooner or later, including great big 200-year old banks like Bearings, and giant computer companies, like IBM, and giant communications companies, like ATT. Nobody that got rich off of those trains is crying into their beer as near as I can tell.
5. As long as my seed money has been secured out of the plan, and actual cash accrues going forward, and it’s not illegal, what the crap do I care about anyone else’s opinion - the anti-P2P posts here are pure opinion, after all.
6. If you are busier airing an unfavorable opinion about P2P than you are making legitimate, verifiable earnings off of it, then whose the sucker?
Just MY opinion,
-Joe
March 24th, 2008 19:26
negiti, I agree with what you are saying, but you also say “as long as it’s not illegal. If it is HYIP then as far as I understand it is illegal in most countries. And seeming as we have no evidence stating that P-2-P is not a HYIP, besides Nick’s word, we can’t really assume that it is legal.
Unless i’m missing something or have the wrong idea of HYIP?
March 24th, 2008 19:46
Lord Alfred,
Unless you are holding back, you are not a Treasury agent for any recognized government, any more than I am. And if you are not, [please forgive me for pointing out] what bad form it is to try and act out as if one were.
When we say the words “scheme”, and “illegal” in this context, do we mean, like Enron? Or do we mean like the Adelphia cable company? Or do we mean like MCI? Perhaps we mean the government of Louisiana, the [documented] most corrupt state government in the United States? Just how are we measuring poor little P2P against the likes of these criminal titans of business and government?
Nick’s word? I have c-a-s-h. My c-a-s-h. Back in my account. As I already said in the post you either didn’t read fully, or chose to selectively ignore. Any additional earnings are courtesy of “Nick’s word”, thank you very much.
No one is getting out of this alive, btw. Just like every money making scheme is going to dry up and blow away at some point. I said that as well in my previous post.
All the jawing on the Web about the illegality of HYIPs (assuming P2P is just that) is based on conjecture. If I want a good bedtime story, I’ll buy a vintage copy off of eBay.
A quick search of the US Treasury Deparment website? Nothing of what you are selling in the way of illegality . . certainly not anything relating directly, specifically, indirectly or by implication, to P2P.
Since this is my opinion, I will disclaim that my observations are incorrect. I do not see any hard evidence indicating that it is. I see alot of folks that aren’t making any interest in P2P, while I do.
-Joe
March 24th, 2008 19:52
Meant to say: “Since this is my opinion, I will disclaim that my observations may be incorrect.”
March 24th, 2008 20:02
Fyi to anyone who might remotely care: I invest in the forex market. It is as low risk as one makes it. It is the highest risk of ventures if one wishes to gamble rather than invest.
The speed with which money can be made in forex trading can be quite breathtaking. My profit taking sessions rarely last more than one minute.
I can’t help if P2P FAQ scripts contain erroneous or conflicting information. I can however attest that it is working, here and now.
As far as stealing money from people who join at the end: I have had a number of stock investments tank, taking every single penny I put into them to the bottom of the ocean. Did the earlier investors steal from me? The answer is so simply, “No.”, that it is ridiculous. No one is twisting any arms to my knowledge. Any more than anyone forced me to lose all that money in those losing stocks.
This is not my opinion, but rather fact and truth. So no disclaimer is required, and none is given.
-Joe
March 24th, 2008 21:00
negiti, first off i don’t even know what a treasury agent is let a lone perform the role of one. Secondly, when we say scheme or illegal we are talking things like pyramid and ponzi schemes where no money is generated, but rather shifted from person to person. Eg assuming P-2-P is a scam (not saying it actually is, just theoretical) it would most likely be a HYIP which generally are Ponzi schemes. In these schemes people get paid, the admin of the scheme is generally nice and friendly, gives minimal info about investments and lardy dardy dar bla bla bla everything that P-2-P seems to be (hence the fishyness). As long as people keep joining, the scheme can continue. It ends either when the admin ups and leaves or the recruitment of new people fails and the admin can’t pay the original investors anymore. generally only about one third of the people who invested money in the scheme actually make any money at all. (sorry if you already knew this, not meaning to be patronising) This is where the moral issue comes in (if morals are important to the person involved). However i do agree with what you say about it being the investors choice, and your parallel to the normal markets interesting. Its just when the investor doesn’t know what they are risking. The difference between this and a normal market however, is that P-2-P guarantees you will make money. Forex and other markets go up and down and admit you could loose all your money if you don’t know what you’re doing. so if you loose money on Forex it is one of the expected possible outcomes, if you loose money from P-2-P upping and leaving it is not an expected possible outcome. Its kinda like a form of gambling, just unsuspecting people don’t know that they are gambling rather than investing in a 100% secure environment. I have no problem with the gambling part though, could be pretty cool if it was presented as a form of gambling. could be fun.
March 25th, 2008 07:35
Lord Alfred,
Sorry if I was snippy.
Yes, ponzi schemes and such are exercises in shifting money and such. No question. Is forex any different? I don’t think so . . currency rates go up and down, I put money against the market, and hope to retrieve more than I put in. Sometimes I do, sometimes my money goes to someone else. Same with stocks, mutual funds, loans to friends, et. al.
As with voting, the financially ignorant should not be allowed access to the visceral act of investing. Why? Because as with voting, they are not actually investing (or voting for that matter). Both require an understanding of the issues and concepts that make up the financial or political landscape they are about to enter into. Without some knowledge of what things are, and what they might be, they cannot in actuality, mentally assent to either transaction. They can only go through the motions, manipulated by some combination of internal and external forces that do not constitute the literal and genuine exercise of free will. In short, these folks should keep their helmets on, especially when they go outside, and be taught not to take crackers or candy from strangers. Now THAT’s morally objectionable. (=’
-Joe
March 29th, 2008 18:16
As I understand it, you can only invest up to $25,000 per member, and that only one member per houshold can join, most of you have read the agreement that P-2-P has in their agreement clause. Yoy can only have 25 in the acct. and turning it over and over you could come up with astronomical numbers indeed, but if you can only do 25 at a time, you don’t enter 25 then 50 then 100 etc etc, you must always start with $25,000, or less. the numbers or cycles do not I believe include amounts above $25,000 the initial entry point, so I don’t follow the math in this atricle as actual representation of abilities to make these million and billions.
March 30th, 2008 04:13
Hello there folks, could anyone out there please tell me how I can join the p2p program? I mean does anyone know some 1 that is already in the program that would be willing to be my referral? please email me at msreyes1@yahoo.com ASAP! thank you!, From what I have read “Robert B” has a friend that is in the program and his friend has made god profitable amounts, Robert if you are reading this can u please contact me for more details, I believe that this program is worth a shot and it could definitely give a positive impact in people’s lives and it can set whole new trend on how investments are percived, practiced, and accounted.
March 30th, 2008 20:38
This is a very interesting discussion. As for my two cents worth..I cannot see this program staying around very long. There have been a number of sites just like this one that have crashed and everyone lost. The one that really comes to mind is CEP. They offered the same as P2P and were around for about 2 years. People were putting a lot of money in it until the Government and SEC got involved. It went down,people lost all they had in it and for those that say they are ahead of the game in this program..The government went after those in CEP that made tons of money and are in the process of making all those in profit pay it back. I do hope people listen to what is said and stay away from this program as everyone will lose, even those in profit. If you want to read something that sounds like this..Check out this link.
http://www.wfperkinsforcep.com/
If you play be prepared to lose..
April 4th, 2008 13:22
To whom it may concern, all the critics on this site have one thing in common: They don’t have evidence of any kind that Nick Smirnow and his operation is a fraud. Easyrider claims that the operation will not last two years. But the systems to which he refers are HYIP programs, of which this is not. The reason it is not a fraudulent operation is that ALL HYIP programs are designed to be completely available to the public. It is completely against their best interest to operate privately. This operation is nothing but private. No one can become a member and invest his money without being referred by an existing member. And even then, P-2-P may not accept him. This type of operation would defeate the purpose of a scam operation. Also, I know of someone who collects 30K per month - every month! Scam sites don’t survive long by giving away their profits like that. The only explaination is that this operation is legitimate!
April 5th, 2008 16:44
Ok, Simms. They may not have any proof that it is HYIP, but you don’t have any proof that its not. Go read the wikipedia page on HYIP. P-2-P fits a little too well. Its sad but true.
April 5th, 2008 18:46
No doubt that this is a hyip program no matter what Nick says. I have found so many things that dont add up its scary. I would not join this program right now. They say they are starting their own payment system which is a big red flag. I would get out now if I could. You cant make 60 percent per month and do it legally and I have heard the authorities know about Nick also. If the goverment shuts them down then those that made money may have to pay it back like cep members did. This one is just bad bad news at this time.
April 6th, 2008 12:28
to negiti:
Very smart comments. Thank you for your time and for sharing your experiences. Would you invite me to join the network? Im ready to experience it by myself and need your help to join. Please take a minute of your time and kindly contact me at melitosmom1@yahoo.com with the URL. Im very excited at this unique opportunity to generate some profits and finally get out of high interest credit card debt. Please help me.
Thanks in advance!
mom in need!
April 13th, 2008 11:54
While some of the information you have posted is correct other things are not. If you had fully done your homework you would have found that there is a maximum investment amount of $25,000 per account/household/IP address. You cannot make millions of dollars simply by rolling the full amount over every month. The person that referred me has a second account (by permission only) and is drawing over $40,000/month off this at this time and started with only the $100.00 initial deposit. With that $100.00 he also opened accounts for several other people on the intrest he has earned for their inital deposit. From everything I have seen as a member myself with nothing to loose, I don’t think it is a scam. Those are huge payouts for a measly $100.00 investment fee. I am also a member of several forums discusing p-2-p and there are many other people making this kind of money as well. If it were a scam it would have been gone before haveing to make those kind of payouts.
April 15th, 2008 15:07
I have an account, but can’t get my money deposited because of a pending status. People I know are making money. One has pulled out over $40,000 over the course of the last 6 months or so.
Does anyone know how to get past this pending status???
April 17th, 2008 16:13
Hi Helpme
Go to http://www.mycashforum.com
Register then scroll down to the p2p section.
Then find the p2p support thread and post you problem there
You will recieve help there.
Hope this helps
April 18th, 2008 00:10
You want scam, look at GalleonFX
April 24th, 2008 10:44
Ok, tomorrow I know more about my investment and will let you know… However, I know at least 2 people who made profit at p-2-p. Just don’t want to comment or complain or cry… I took the risk and invested. That’s all I could do as being an entrepreneur and investor since long time ago.
To life, family and business success,
Teodor
April 26th, 2008 07:11
I’m French and I would like very much to know the exact way to suscribe to your 60 days plan (the necessity to open a count , where and how),then how to invest. Is that all free ? If your answer is in french I would really appreciate. Thank you and best Regards
April 26th, 2008 07:19
and what about this referral ?
April 28th, 2008 23:19
Love u guys b’coz u are giving me money.My bank has never give me money.They have always taken my money just like the gov’mt.
April 29th, 2008 12:51
I have been considering joining and in my research found this page. I talked to a woman on the phone and she does say that they are creating there own offshore payment method. She also talks to me about how criminal our government is and how she thinks shes found a way to get off the income tax list so she no longer has to pay taxes. It sounds very sketchy but as of this moment its my opinion that people are making money but its also my opinion that this will all collapse. Its just a matter of when and if there will be any actions taken against you for being involved.
May 1st, 2008 13:53
Man, did I ever get screwed by P-2-P! Be careful of these people! I invested a few thousand in mid February, doubled my money by mid April and took out my initial investment plus a grand more, that I now have in the bank. I let the remainder ride and it’s now earning $275.04 per day interest for 30 days. BUT, here’s the warning. It took those scam artists 10 whole days before the money I took out got to my bank account! This is outrageous and I may ask for an SEC investigation! (The freaking nerve!) I’m so upset about this I may refuse to allow them to send any more profits to my bank account! How dare they try to shove their money down my throat like this! I’d listen to Peter and stay away! He seems so smart and informed. Money will only harm you! You’ve been warned.
May 2nd, 2008 21:22
I have read it all and somehow I think you might be right!
For 2 weks I am trying to get in to P-2-P I have money in my Account, what ever that means but that is all. I am not able to fund the project I am interested in and asking for help several times allready the Support people, I can get no answer from them.
Must I just write off the my Dollars now and submit to a scam you are more and less suggestink?. has anybody an answer for me?
May 5th, 2008 08:45
Gunther,
First you cannot fund P2P directly. It has to go through an Exchange. Also, only members can get tech support through a private Forum so who are you writing to? Something’s not kosher about this post of Gunther’s. Over 18,000 members and he’s the only one who can’t get his money back? Not likely. I suggest Gunther;s made some mistakes trying this out and he’s blaming others for them.
May 6th, 2008 20:48
If you want to get in to P2P Please email me
May 13th, 2008 20:05
I know some one just starting to get involved in this. Regardless of whether or not money is made…if this is a scam, and P2P disappears, what is the likelyhood of identity theft? To create an account P2P requires alot of personal information.
May 25th, 2008 08:30
I am not sure about P2P, I do not have enough information yet. But I do know that hacking is illegal, and when I tried to get to the P2P website, and arrived here instead, that is called hacking.
Hacking is illegal, and you are whining about someone else’s alleged illegal activities? Something is wrong with this picture…
Dr. LJW
May 26th, 2008 14:36
Hi Michael, just read your replay from the 5.5.08 and will let you know that I finally did get fundet! I did not wanted my money back, needer did I wantet it laying erround in an Account and duing nothing!! I went for the 30 Day program since 5,10.08 and natually waiting now for the result.
Just found out a neighbor of mine is in since Oct.07 and is very pleaseD with the p2P. SO MUCH FOR THE NAY SAYERS!
Gunther
May 28th, 2008 12:06
p2p is a real investment sight. nick is an honest man . stop blasting is program
May 28th, 2008 15:39
Dr Ljw….
What????
May 29th, 2008 10:53
In responce to the 10 day turn around … feel LUCKY it was so fast. You need to keep in mind that this is the REAL Deal. I was in an off sfore investment program years ago that earned over $4000. When it came time to get the money it took 6 weeks - as they said it would. It had to process the trust in Balize then route to San Francisco - then to a bank in New York before a was sent a check 6 weeks later. All over the P-2-P website it tells you to be patient …. HELLO???? 10 days is a real qiuck turn around …. ” doubled my money by mid April and took out my initial investment plus a grand more ” And there is a problem with this????
May 30th, 2008 06:28
Are you for real? He was JOKING
June 13th, 2008 15:10
I have earned over $17,000 in the last 60 days from p2p. I took my initial investment out after the first 60 investment. The rest is monopoly money and my Mercedes Dealer takes the kind of monolopy money Nick pays. Isint that good news?
June 15th, 2008 23:06
Hey Everyone,
Just started investigating P2P. Great forum here.
I am enjoying reading everyone’s posts.
Lots of strong opinions in both camps.
I will be back.
I believe the general rule of thumb always
applies when it comes to money, whether it’s
hyip’s, mutual funds, stocks, forex, etc.
‘Never put in more than you can afford to lose’
If you live by that you will never get hurt.
I look forward to reading your future posts.
Take care,
Mark
June 17th, 2008 00:27
Hello to all, in the P2P family and others. I’m a very happy member of this “club” and am about to pull out two times what I put in (the equivalent of what my family used to make in a month)and still have half of my earnings left in for the next 60 days. I have no doubt it will reach my bank in the specified time frame as promised, just like my first withdrawl.Yes, it takes patience, but it’s so worth it.
To respond to whoever was talking about P2P members being greedy, in my experience that is about the farthest thing from the truth, there are always greedy people that will try to cheat the system, and lie to get more accounts than one is allowed, but the majority of members are genuinely gratefull for the opportunity and many donate huge sums to or start non-profit organizations for abused children or runaway teens,etc.etc… like my husband and I are hoping to do when we are able.
I believe P2P is a direct answer to my prayers, a dear friend of mine signed me up after my husband lost his job, and neither of us has found work since. But we’re not really looking, that’s how secure I feel about the future of this retirement club. Even if it does not last forever, I have been forever inspired by so many in this great Family from all over the globe. For now we are enjoying spending every day at home with our 4 wonderfull children and look forward to taking our first vacation and buying our first house within the next year. Thanx for letting me say my piece. Namaste, Small Wonders
June 18th, 2008 21:58
Hi Namaste,
Great post. I love stories like that.
I wish you the best.
take care,
mark
June 19th, 2008 08:12
I need a referral to join p2p. I have some questions… How long will this program be in existence for? Is this real estate or emerging market investments, and above all, how do I account for taxes on this program - is it dividends, Interest or what? I could make some needed extra income here. Someone please help me!
June 20th, 2008 09:06
Hi Sue- If you want more information about P2P you can get in touch- YourGoldenGooseSystem@gmail.com
P2P is making a HUGE difference in peoples lives and the returns are real.
June 22nd, 2008 10:41
I’ve been a P2P member long enough to have successfully withdrawn and deposited more than three times my principal investment. My earnings are small potatoes compared to friends of mine. A very close friend (the one who introduced me to P2P) recently paid cash for a BMW 528i. He was driving a beater piece of junk less than a year ago. I’ve seen post after post on this site and others warning that P2P would collapse “very soon, any day now, it’s just a matter of time.” Well, I’ve been reading those warnings since early 2007. If Nick Smirnow was perpetrating a scam, why would he place a limit on maximum investment? Why would he limit membership to referred members only? If P2P is such a scam, how are people making such profits? Regardless of the rants of the naysayers, I’m studying my local BMW dealership’s inventory.
June 25th, 2008 00:52
How is he getting by with these scamas he has created over the years? I have seen people double their money but only a handfull of people are allowed to keep their money that they
make only to lure others into the scam. Afte it gets built up to the mega billions or even maybe a trillion then suddenly p2p and Nick will dissapear and all trace of money with it.
June 25th, 2008 12:05
Its amazing to me after reading all your comments, that all the pessimists have absolutely no proof of what they are saying, and the optimists have plenty of proof, including myself. Its $$ in the bank, and plenty of it, all from P-2-P.
All The Best.
June 26th, 2008 09:12
Sandy, its Nicks problem to produce proof that he is making money. Im amazed at how gullible some of you people are. This is clearly a scam waiting to happen and payout times are at an all time high of 21 days the last I checked. Im sure they have given the typical excuses blah blah blah. I have heard and seen it all. More will lose money than will make it in the end. Nick is a liar and a criminal and it will all come out soon.
Those of you that are making money are stealing it from others who are going to lose. This is an obvious ponzi.
June 26th, 2008 15:37
skeptical
You are wrong about the payouts. On a 30 day program some months ago I had one payment overlap the other, which is obviously longer than 21 days. Then the next month I was paid in 9 days. Post again when you have your facts right.
June 26th, 2008 19:55
hi,is anyone else having problems with the p2p site..its really slow and not displaying a page?
June 26th, 2008 20:09
Rock, everybody is. I have experienced this many times before. They are probably working on the site. I would just try again tomorrow.
June 26th, 2008 23:49
i would like to know more about this p2p it sounds like the real deal. We live in an upside down world, I do the opposite of what the doctors say and I’m healthy as a horse at 86 yrs old. And I’ve been successful doing the opposite in of my friends that are in the stock market and other stuff and making more than them. I think doing the opposite of what the majority says and you’ll live longer and make more money.
June 27th, 2008 15:41
I am with you John. Many of my friends are investing with P-2-P and are making a lot of money. I am nearing my first plan and am very excited and will continue to do so. If you want a link feel free to email me at RebRobbie@sbcglobal.net
June 27th, 2008 16:54
Hi,
I currently have money in P2P as do some of my friends. When we put our money into it we knew it was high risk. Anybody with any sense knows they should only put into this or any other business, internet or not what they can afford to lose.
This was shown to me by a friend in April of last year, I was skeptical so I passed. He showed it to me again around January or February of this year and I started searching for more info and found this site, I read the comments and again passed because of what I read here. That was a mistake on my part as was passing the other 2 times I was shown this.
I currently have 2 60 day plans running, if P2P is still around I will have my money back and more next month. I will pull my money out and use my earnings from this point forward.
My point is, life is full of risk. I live in the Shark bite Capital of the World. However, everyday the water is full of people swimming, surfing, ect… It takes $100 to get started, I spend that easily on a night out with my Wife. Some people spend that much every month on Cigarettes. Personally, I am sorry I passed earlier on P2P and encourage anyone who has $100 they can afford to lose, worse case scenario, to jump into it without hesitation. The worst case you lose $100, the upside is huge !!!! Don’t be like me and look back 6 months to a year from now and kick yourself for passing.
June 28th, 2008 08:16
I, today read all 70 prior post, and have recently joined as well as my sister. I went through foreclosure a while back and now and optomistic I have a way to buy my property back by investing in P-2-P plan. I’ll just invest like most sensible investors do. Take out your principal, then let the program mature as planed. My sister plans on building a new small home for our mom who is in the 80’s to enjoy before her time is up. I think that GOD has sent this investment opportunity to help people, SO WE CAN help others. Never invest any more than you can afford to loose is any investors motto.
June 28th, 2008 09:20
I am already a member and have been getting paid, yet yesterday the site went down and still down. I don’t know how someone can Join right now esp. on June 28th if the site has been down since June 27th unless you joined prior to the 27th.
I was about to put double digit x100 fundings since several of my $100 investment came back to my checking account. I wait to see if it comes up and wait another week to see if it stays up before funds start to move. Hope this help.
June 28th, 2008 14:10
P2P is up an running fine. It is a bit slow these days however. But, it is up and running and people on the forum inside report that they are being paid. They post their request date and the date they got paid. Seems to be going fine. Site slowness may cause it to not come up at all for people on slow connections.
Wayne
June 28th, 2008 16:54
Anyone wanting to join P-2-P can follow this link:
https://www.pathway-2-prosperity.net?r=lareeldeal
I am happy with it so far, I put in $100 and have doubled it in very short order.
I have three friends who have put in money and get out exactly what was promised in the fashion promised. Two of them are at maximum $25,000. So, I joined. I watched them for many months before putting any money in and made sure they were getting their money out.
Here is that link again,
https://www.pathway-2-prosperity.net?r=lareeldeal
Break a leg,
Dan
June 30th, 2008 08:20
As in any finance investment program when you expect fast returns yuo must take the risk. I took it 3 month ago by investing $1000 and now recovered my money and have ablout $5000 reinvested in p-2-p. But I do not recommend you to invest a penny if you are not ready to take the risk.
Here is the link if you wish:
https://www.pathway-2-prosperity.net?r=mteodor
Teodor M
June 30th, 2008 08:23